Okay here’s a little timesaver. Consider it a PSA.

Paypalflames

The other half has a PayPal account, they also had a PayPal credit account.

On both accounts, the balances are zero, and have been for quite some time.

Based on the now retracted misinformation that PayPal sent out over the weekend, the other half decided to close the PayPal account(s) totally.

The logic here is that PayPal sent out an updated AUP which had all the language in full legalese. The other half looks at this as clear intent. This was not a mistake, as PayPal wants to frame it. This updated policy went through PayPal’s legal folks, it went through innumerable reviews and revisions and was then sent out.

No-one who has ever worked in corporate America, specifically in the software industry is ever going to believe that the changes to PayPal’s policy were a mistake, or a typo, or whatever.

Based on that knowledge, the other half decided to cut all ties with PayPal because this “misinformation” that PayPal sent out demonstrates clearly malicious intent.

The other half spent 3+ hours being bounced around PayPal trying to close the accounts. They were successful in closing the credit account. But were then transferred back to the actual PayPal people who said that the credit card was still open.

The other half gave the folks at PayPal the confirmation number indicating that the credit account was closed but the PayPal girl couldn’t confirm that even with a confirmation number. So what good is the confirmation number?

Back to the PayPal credit folks the other half is transferred. Once again a happy people personality phone system must be navigated. 

Once again there are endless recordings about working with the account online. Once again back at the credit part of PayPal it’s confirmed that the credit account is closed.

Then back to the PayPal idiots and this time the other half cuts through all the bullshit about how the updated policy was misinformation, gives the confirmation number again proving that the credit account is closed and is finally told, “Oh, you have to wait two days after closing the credit account before we can close your PayPal account.

At this point, the other half is quite heated, and points out that had someone told them that an hour and a half ago it would have been nice.

Then the other half goes for the kill.

“Since your updated policy is now classified as misinformation when can I expect my $2500? And since the person from your company I spoke with who transferred me back to the credit folks also gave me misinformation shouldn’t I be getting $5000?

The silence on the other end of the phone was deafening. The poor lady probably had heard the line about paying the customer for PayPal’s misinformation endlessly over the past few days, but I’m not sure she’d heard the additional $2500 being asked for, because their call center gave out misinformation about closing the account.

So for those of you who are rightfully trying to close PayPal accounts.

Step One, Close the credit account. 

Step Two, wait two full banking days.

Step Three, go online or call these people up and close the PayPal part of the account.

When I closed my PayPal account several years ago, I was told that the account would take 30 days to actually close. Since there was no money in the account I didn’t care, but I’d bet that you’re going to be waiting a month for your money if you have a balance in your PayPal account.

If you call, be prepared for them to tell you it was all a mistake over and over again. At one point the person the other half was talking to offered $15.00 cash to keep the account open. 

Yes folks, PayPal values you that much… A whole $15.00!

The other half told the call center person that was insulting and suggested instead adding a couple of zeros to the amount.

I think we should send PayPal an invoice for $5015.00 or perhaps for $6500.00 to be fair.

Get out of PayPal folks. It’s going to take patience and perseverance and these people will run you in little circles but in the long run seeing them go down in flames will probably be a beautiful sight.

I guess if you’ve got stock in PayPal you might want to sell it quick.


Just a little update 11/7/2022:

It turns out that PayPal has in fact instituted their 2500.00 fine for misinformation. Apparently they slid it in with stealth, like a bastard who lets their date see them put a condom on, then stealthily pulls the condom off before penetration.

This comes after PayPal Customer Service repeatedly told the other half that PayPal wasn’t going to charge anyone 2500.00.

So PayPal LIED! Isn’t that misinformation? Does that mean I could legitimately send PayPal an invoice for 5000.00? They spread misinformation TWICE! Once when they said they weren’t going to impose this ridiculous fine and now they have. By my calculation, that’s two incidents of misinformation.

PayPal caused me grievous harm lying like they have. I’ve been triggered! My little heard hurts! I’m so offended!

Yeah, I know…

I’m going to be whistling for that money.

It does highlight the hypocrisy of the left. This is one of those glaring examples of “Our Betters” getting away with exactly what they tell us is an offense.

We live in bizzaro world. Everything the left tells us is true, turns out to be almost exactly 180 degrees from the truth.

It’s time to call these asshole out, every time, on every thing, they say.

Ya know, It’s time to end PayPal.

I long ago closed my PayPal Account. I’ve avoided them like the plague since. Thinking about it, I must’ve closed that account 10 years or so ago.

I closed it because they sent out a notice telling their account holders that they’d decline to process any purchases that could be related to firearms.

I didn’t own any firearms but them telling me, the customer, that they would have final say on how I spent my money didn’t sit right. They also had some other things they’d decline to process, specifically adult oriented purchases.

To be clear, the PayPal Account I had was not a credit account. This was PayPal getting between me and the cash assets I’d deposited into their financial system.

So I thought about it for a while then pulled my cash out of their system. When the account was closed I never looked back.

PayPal hasn’t crossed my mind until yesterday.

There was an AUP (Acceptable Use Policy) released from PayPal stating that they would take $2500.00 from a user’s account if PayPal determined that the user spread “Misinformation”

There’s an article from MSN Here, and another article from Breitbart Here.

Prohibited activities include:

the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in PayPal’s sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing, or objectionable, (b) depict or appear to depict nudity, sexual or other intimate activities, (c) depict or promote illegal drug use, (d) depict or promote violence,  criminal activity, cruelty, or self-harm (e) depict, promote, or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics (e.g. race, religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) (f) present a risk to user safety or wellbeing, (g) are fraudulent, promote misinformation, or are unlawful, (h) infringe the privacy, intellectual property rights, or other proprietary rights of any party, or (i) are otherwise unfit for publication.

That’s a pretty broad brush they’re painting with. Essentially anything that you might say which someone might take offense at could cost you 2500.00 per incident.

They can’t directly attack the First Amendment, so they’re going to silence you with fines. Imagine, you getting into a Twitter exchange where 50 Trans or Abortion activists were offended.

With this policy in place, the perpetually aggrieved could report you to PayPal and use PayPal to financially ruin you if you had an account.

People like Jordan Peterson, Kanye West, Marjorie Taylor Green, Dave Rubin, or any other conservative voice, could literally be run into bankruptcy in less than 24 hours. Hey, it’s all automatic isn’t it? All it takes is some person in a cubical hitting a “FINE” button based on every complaint lodged against someone, verified or not. Hell it could even be done with an algorithm.

The really evil part of this scheme is that the people complaining don’t get the cash. PayPal keeps it.

There’s no checks or balances.

If a person complaining could get $2500 for their complaint, but stood to loose that money if the complaint was found to be invalid, then at least the complaints might have a chance of being ‘real’. But PayPal was trying to create a completely open ended system where they cashed in with no accountability.

PayPal must be ended! I think everyone should close their accounts immediately. Don’t use PayPal even to process a credit card. Why give them any possible leverage to destroy your financial stability?

This form of manipulation must be stopped. It’s not just PayPal, banks all over the world are starting to engage in social justice instead of doing what they’re paid to do, which is hold client money and process payments.

PayPal is walking this whole thing back today. But it’s only because of the blowback. This was not a mistake, as PayPal is claiming today. This was their intention, they just didn’t anticipate that people would actually read their AUP.

Make no mistake, banks, and payment processors, particularly those in the sphere of technology are rabid social justice warriors, they’re leftists, and this may be part of the so called “Conspiracy” to make every human being subject to ESG scores.

Choose your financial institutions wisely. Don’t comply with this kind of bullshit.

Banks hold money, it is not up to them to be your parents, approving of how you spend your hard earned money.

I received my Voter information guide

Yea…

127 pages long. I guess I’ve got some reading and research to do.

I’m so angry at both political parties, I’m tempted to just vote Libertarian or Independent down the line so long as it is against all incumbents. Not that it would matter.

I don’t necessarily believe that the 2020 election as stolen. I believe that there were simply that many people who hated Trump and would have voted for road kill consisting of a rancid opossum instead of Trump. In Biden, what they got isn’t far off.

I do believe that there were enough voting irregularities to justify asking questions and really investigating. I’m still super pissed off that so many courts dismissed out of hand allegations of voter fraud and now guess what?

Turns out that there was voter fraud, though not on the scale that Trump alleged. As we’ve now heard in a limited way (thanks to our incompetent news organizations), there were irregularities in MN, AZ, and WI. We’re not talking minor gaffes, we’re talking really illegal stuff that has no business being allowed in the voting process. Oh, and to be clear, these irregularities happened on both sides of the political divide.

Turnip

I can only conclude, the American people apparently wanted a turnip as President. Well, now we’ve got a Turnip in Chief and how’s that going?

I ashamed that my Mother voted for Biden. In her case, he was familiar and he was old, and she believes 100% anything that CNN says. She’s too tired to actually fact check herself.

Prior to the election, I was chatting with someone that I know more or less well. He was happy to vote for Biden, but knew nothing about Harris. I told him that she was an idiot. He’s new to California and didn’t know anything about her. He was surprised when I called Harris a tramp that apparently had a golden hole and slept her way to power.

“Dude, that’s pretty strong!”
“Well, I’m entitled to my opinion,” I replied.

We haven’t talked politics for a while. In fact we haven’t seen each other in over 2 years. I’d be interested in pouring him a stiff drink and asking if he still thought I was wrong.

The shittiest part of the midterms in California is that I have zero faith in voting.

I notice that in this election, I will not be able to cast my vote against Adam Schiff, maybe I’ll be in California long enough to write in “broken dildo” as a candidate against him. Hey if we can elect a turnip from president, why not something equally useless as a senator?

I suppose that I’m like a lot of other people in the country. It’s not that, “My Candidate” isn’t elected, it’s that the elected candidates aren’t listening. They spend decades doing the same thing over and over again and call it important work even when the victims of that important work are telling them, “This shit isn’t working!”

Their answer is always the same, “Let’s spend more money on this plan that isn’t working,” then hamstring everyone to more rules and regulations that insure the plan can never work.

This is why I’m in favor of smaller government, when something is too big its course can’t easily be changed. The nasty truth of big systems and lot of rules and regulations is that they inevitably lead to graft and corruption.

Mr. Scott from StarTrek famously quipped, “The more complicated the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the works.”

We all know when the works get stopped up, things flow into places they were never supposed to. This is true of money flowing through a government.

The difference is that corrupt politicians are more than happy to scoop clogged money into their pockets. While they will immediately run from a clogged toilet. In Nancy’s house, the screeching probably sounds like, “Where a Mexican to clean this mess up?”

That doesn’t sound too different from my Grandfather telling me as a 5 or 6 year old to, “Go get the ’N’ word to clean that up.”

Nothing has changed.