{"id":200,"date":"2011-06-27T12:31:00","date_gmt":"2011-06-27T19:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bone-in-the-throat.com\/Blog\/?p=200"},"modified":"2021-08-26T18:30:34","modified_gmt":"2021-08-27T01:30:34","slug":"the-car-saga-continues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bone-in-the-throat.com\/Blog\/2011\/06\/27\/the-car-saga-continues\/","title":{"rendered":"The Car saga continues"},"content":{"rendered":"
This entry is in general about the car but there are broader implications in what I\u2019m about to say.<\/span><\/div>\n

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To recap, the car started acting up then I got a check engine indication.<\/span><\/div>\n

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After a  day or so the dealership said the problem originated from both turbo waste gates malfunctioning. <\/span><\/div>\n

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Aside from the strange coincidence that both units malfunctioned at the same time and that I\u2019ve been chasing some kind of gremlin around the car since 2009. I\u2019m more or less happy that finally some hard indication of a problem existing in the car has been documented.<\/span><\/div>\n

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I\u2019m MORE than annoyed that when I started reporting issues I was WELL within the factory warranty and now that someone actually saw a problem I\u2019m close to the end of the extended warranty. But that is simply the way things are and there\u2019s nothing to be done about it.<\/span><\/div>\n

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90% of the issue in this case is the reliance of the dealerships on their diagnostic and onboard computers, then doing ONLY the minimum required NOT actually engaging in diagnosis.<\/span><\/div>\n

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Diagnosis being the logical testing and elimination of potential problems until the actual problem was found and corrected. <\/span><\/div>\n

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In many if not all of todays vehicles the \u201cTechnician\u201d (Give me a good old fashioned MECHANIC any day.) interrogates the onboard systems and if they say nothing is wrong\u2026 Well then NOTHING is wrong! <\/span><\/div>\n

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I swear, The car could have come in on a tow truck with the engine not even turning over and if the computer said everything was fine, then some of these \u201cTechnicians\u201d would return the car still not running with \u201cNo problem found\u201d.<\/span><\/div>\n

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There is however an overarching problem in our society. <\/span><\/div>\n

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In my opinion this problem will continue to undermine us until we put a stop to it, or until the United States we know is just another 3rd world cesspool. <\/span><\/div>\n

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The problem is the minimalist approach<\/u>.<\/span><\/div>\n

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Let me give you an extreme example.<\/span><\/div>\n

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You go in for surgery. Your doctor and surgeon have determined that you have a cancerous tumor in your gut. So they prep you and slice you open. While they’re inside you they see another tumor of a slightly different kind. They note in your records and remove ONLY the original tumor as required by the insurance company and per the legal documents you signed when you were admitted.  <\/span><\/div>\n

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Then they schedule you for another surgery next month to remove the OTHER tumor. Of course the doctors get to hit you with double the costs and drive up the insurance payout. So literally everyone in the situation WINS\u2026. <\/span><\/div>\n

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Except of course the poor bastard that\u2019s being sliced and diced.<\/span><\/div>\n

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This makes no fucking sense, we all know it defies logic. Yet we have examples of this kind of thinking all over the place.<\/span><\/div>\n

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There was a place I worked where we tested software. I\u2019m a black box, start to finish, end to end, front to back, kind of Quality Assurance Engineer. <\/span><\/div>\n

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I\u2019m proud of that and I take pride in my ability to find problems in software. (Except when I\u2019m finding issues with software I\u2019m not being paid to test\u2026 Windows? Anyone?)<\/span><\/div>\n

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This company was all about process, procedures, and documentation. Problem was they only tested to prove the requirement was met. It didn\u2019t matter that the software under test didn\u2019t actually fucking work!<\/span><\/div>\n

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The focus was so narrowly on meeting the individual requirement that they\u2019d lost sight of the overall system. Requirements are, in general the MINIMUM thing necessary.<\/span><\/div>\n

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That\u2019s the problem. Accountability means meeting the minimum. In a homogeneous work environment where the person that excels is never rewarded for their excellence, you build in mediocrity. You really cement in that \u201cIt\u2019s not my job\u201d mentality.<\/span><\/div>\n

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Another aspect of this is that costs are driven up and MORE busy work is being created, customer satisfaction drops into the shitter, customer loyalty becomes a thing of the past, OH AND you increase waste and consumerism. <\/span><\/div>\n

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Why? Because usually in these situations the customer spends an inordinate amount of time dicking with getting their problem SOLVED! <\/span><\/div>\n

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More often than not the customer in frustration SOLVES the problem by tossing the offending \u201cWhatever\u201d in the trash T<\/span>hen they buy another similar item from another vendor. <\/span><\/div>\n

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 In this age of being green, hugging Mother Earth, carbon credits, and political posturing for environmental responsibility, you\u2019d think the first thing to work on is fucking quality!<\/span><\/div>\n

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Here\u2019s another example.<\/span><\/div>\n

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This is an actual email thread I had with the guy at the dealership today.<\/span><\/div>\n

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ME: <\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

It occurred to me that there is a lot of oil going through the turbos.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

If I remember general turbo construction the turbos depend on oil for a part of their cooling and they may even use oil bearings dependent on design.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This begs a question.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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\nThe next service interval was about 7000 miles in the future. It doesn’t make any sense to me that you’d put new turbos on the car and then subject them to OLD oil. Does this turbo replacement INCLUDE the OIL CHANGE and whatever other service is indicated?<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It makes sense for the health of the car and frankly my convenience to just do the next service early. Is there any way we can take care of this now?<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

THEM:<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

The issue was not with the Turbo it self but the waste gate. The waste gate is attached to the Turbo<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

ME:<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

OK,<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Are the waste gates external to the turbochargers? I know that’s a possible arrangement.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

From the expense of the repair I assumed that both the turbochargers were being replaced as units which contained the turbos and gates<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

If it’s a whole unit replacement then it still makes sense to drop the oil and do the other service. Just so the turbos have a clean start.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

If the waste gates are external, then i wouldn’t have expected them to be quite as expensive since there’s nothing particularly exotic about them.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

In any case. The point is that I’m planning to take the car on a couple of trips over the next 6 weeks because of those plans I want to make sure it’s fully up to par before I leave.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Another question, I just want to confirm this is an N54 engine correct?<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

THEM:<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

Yes, It is an N54 engine. We can change the oil is you would like. I have a coupon for $99.00<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

ME:<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

OK <\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Do the oil change.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Change the Air intake filter.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Change the micro-filter.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I realize that those items are not included and will cost additional money. If it’s not over 200.00 then do it <\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Otherwise let me know what the estimate is.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Also and this is vitally important. Make sure that I haven’t missed ANYTHING that would be included in the service that is DUE in 7000 miles.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I’m looking at the “Service and Warranty guide.” And didn’t see anything that jumped out at me. If I did miss anything let me know.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

IF there is nothing else that should be done for the upcoming service, <\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Then reset the service interval (CBS) system.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I’m attaching the oil service coupon.<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

To Recap<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I currently Owe you for the Air conditioning service <\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I will Owe you for the oil change<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I will Owe you for the air filter<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I will Owe you for the micro filter<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

THEM:<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

Ok<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

THEM 2nd Email:<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

It’s about 364.45 for the oil & filter, air filter and micro filter<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

ME:<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

Do it<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

THEM:<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

Ok<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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IS IT ME???<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

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There are several places in this email exchange where this guy is JUST not answering the questions. <\/span><\/div>\n

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I\u2019m not naming anybody here but for FUCKS Sake! Why did I have to go digging up information, <\/span><\/div>\n
Why was this apparently some kind of issue? Frankly this guys approach seems to me to be EVASIVE as hell and being a QA person this is like putting blood in the water in a school of great whites. <\/span><\/div>\n

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Again this is indicative of the minimalist approach. <\/span><\/div>\n

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This service guy SHOULD have suggested that we do the interval service NOW. <\/span><\/div>\n

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As I pointed out it makes ME the customer happier so I don\u2019t have the car BACK in for service in a month or two. <\/span><\/div>\n

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Yet because the FUCKING computer didn\u2019t tell him to THINK! He was just going to let it go. <\/span><\/div>\n

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I STILL don\u2019t know if the DAMN turbos are being replaced in their entirety or if the waste gates are EXTERNAL to the turbos. <\/span><\/div>\n

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What I DO know is that you can\u2019t ever hurt a car by changing it\u2019s oil. I know that you can\u2019t hurt a car by changing it\u2019s air filter, and I KNOW that I drive in a dusty environment so it\u2019s likely that the air intake and cabin intake filters are dirty. Yeah, maybe not dirty enough to require changing, but for FUCKS sake it isn\u2019t going to hurt and in fact may help the new hardware get off to a healthy start. <\/span><\/div>\n

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At least mention the option\u2026 I can take it or leave it but DON\u2019T make me feel like I\u2019m having to fight you for it. <\/span><\/div>\n

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Again meeting requirements but not going beyond what the computerized program SAYS to do\u2026<\/span><\/div>\n

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If all we are doing is reading scripts from our computer screens, in no time the computer will be reading the script and the humans will be living under an overpass like every other 3rd world cesspool.. <\/span><\/div>\n

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I just can\u2019t wrap my head around this kind of thinking, It\u2019s so wasteful and irritating and then you see news articles speaking of low customer satisfaction and the writers are at a loss as to why. <\/span><\/div>\n

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All anyone has to do is try to have their car repaired, or call customer service for their computers, cellphones, game consoles, or televisions, or telephones. <\/span><\/div>\n

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Don\u2019t we all cringe when we hear <\/span><\/div>\n

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\u201cYes Sir, I understand your concern\u2026\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

This entry is in general about the car but there are broader implications in what I\u2019m about to say. To recap, the car started acting up then I got a check engine indication. After a  day or so the dealership said the problem originated from both turbo waste gates malfunctioning. Aside from the strange coincidence … <\/p>\n

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